Andre Ward On Floyd Mayweather Being The Best, P4P: Quote Spotlight

On the ninth of January, 2015, during the Roc Nation Sports Card on FS1, Andre Ward was interviewed by Michael Woods. Woods asked the following straightforward question and got the following straightforward answer:

Woods: "Last question, putting you on the spot: Are you the top pound-for-pound fighter on the planet, or is that Floyd Mayweather?"

Ward: "That's Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather has done it longer than me. He's been at this level for a very, very long time, and I'm a young guy who always pays homage to the guys who go before me. But, as a competitor, and as somebody who's in this sport, I always shoot for the top spot and that's the spot I'm coming for, with all due respect to Floyd, but the top spot is what you should always want."

In boxing history, a fighter's greatness is often more easily digestible when looking at how how their contemporaries rated them during their careers than when looking at accomplishments on paper, or even reviewing available fight films or revised opinions being given upon reflection, years after the dust settles. You'll find numerous glowing appraisals of Harry Greb and Joe Gans in their days, from the men plying the trade alongside him, as well as appraisals of Julio Cesar Chavez Senior and Pernell Whitaker in their day.

Floyd Mayweather Junior, aged 37, in January, was rated by one of the standout, dominant champions in the sport as the actual pound-for-pound best, without any hesitation. We will be able to look back and see how Floyd was rated as essentially an old fighter who still stood on top in his day, according to most of the other top fighters. Not just on top as a celebrity or money-maker. But on top in a pure, most-difficult-to-beat sense. The purest sense, really. It will be easier to separate his personal history or his often villainous, arrogant persona from his boxing. It will be seen by those looking back in future generations that when it comes to boxing, most of his peers knew he was the most consistently special in the world, even while closer to forty than thirty. It's quite a rarity, and can only be appreciated when it's separate from all things non-boxing.

Respect to Andre Ward for stating his position with that kind of clarity and candor for the history books.



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On HBO tonight, Andre Ward rightfully defended the only title that matters at super middleweight- Ward's weight- the weight class he owns. That's THE title which he defended. Not A title, but THE title. Jose Sulaiman has no say in this matter. Gilberto Mendoza has no say in this matter. While Carl Froch, Robert Stieglitz, Sakio Bika, are all three very good fighters, they are all current contenders. No rational fan dare calls them or anyone not named Andre Ward "the super middleweight champion of the world" with a straight face. They know better. We all know better. Well, save the casual know-nothings who simply don't care, and the media who care even less by way of mere mention of these other title holders as the world champion. Ward's performance tonight is an example of the absurdity that boxing operates under, where the definitive champion just isn't definitive enough to avoid "dispute".

This is why the concept of an "undisputed champion" in boxing has gone from a slight problem to a Steve-Martin-Level absurdist's wet dream. Since boxing isn't supposed to be a comedy, this would be a bad thing. To be clear, if we wanted boxing to be hilarious, and to mock what men like Tim Bradley and Ruslan Provodnikov have recently done for it, then this would be great. Sakio Bika loses to Andre Ward, now he's slated to defend Ward's earned title as his own. Carl Froch gets completely dominated by Ward, and he is now scheduled to defend "a version of" Ward's title as his own. Robert Stieglitz has his title after beating Arthur Abraham, who was decisively beaten by...? Ward, of course. It's Ward's division. He owns it. He dominates it. Every fighter in it must be connected to Ward because he is where they're supposed to want to be and every title must be taken as a joke unless it's Ward's title.

Can you picture the following discussion taking place amongst NBA basketball fans?

Fan 1: The Miami Heat and the San Antonio Spurs are both the defending NBA champions this year.

Fan 2: I don't understand. How did that happen? I thought Miami beat San Antonio. 

Fan 1: They sure did, but then San Antonio went and played Dallas and won a version of the title, so now they're both claiming to be 2013 NBA champions. So, they're both defending the title this year. Oh, and Chicago, they're also claiming to be champions and all the announcers announce them as 2013 champions. 

Fan 2: Chicago? How did they get a claim to be champion? 

Fan 1: They played for a vacant title against Boston, because an organisation said they were the top two teams in their own organisation's estimation, whereas San Antonio played for a version of Miami's title. You see, Miami is a super champion, having won the year before and San Antonio are regular champions. So, yes, all three are considered champions and we're going to call all of their games "title matches" and boy will they be big events. 


This utter nonsense is what it amounts to in boxing and everyone with a motivation to do so (most of the media) acquiesce to these concepts whenever it's comfy. Andre Ward is the Miami Heat of 168-pound fighters and this is what is happening to what he earned. He is not alone but he might have the single worst example of how dysfunctional the sport of boxing can be for even its best and most accomplished fighters. Ward's performance tonight brings home yet another bout of nausea for me, having to think that this crooked, absurd system is one where the contenders, very good fighters though they may be, can basically have their own nights to play pretend champion, and media and fans will follow suit, like children playing cops and robbers. It's all make believe- pretend titles, pretend champions, pretend defences, pretend title challenges. No one can get hurt if you're a citizen in an imagination. Except, boxing does get hurt because of this.

Unfortunately, these fake title fights are real fights with real risks. It's sad that the fights themselves and the fighters are stained by this dirty marketing ploy that shouldn't be allowed. This pretend title circus leaves a bit of permanent slime on every incredible night that happens. Kessler VS Froch I & II? What fights! What fighters! But because they were also billed world title fights, for a title that wasn't anyone's but Ward's to contest, all was tainted. It confuses fans, makes marketing the actual champion as the champion more difficult and therefore makes merit the least invested in and least understood treasure in the sport. It devalues something that has a rightful owner. That is ethically wrong and Ward is being cheated because of it. Make no mistake, in that there is a difference between the mess of having the best unable to find a political avenue to fighting each other and picking up reasonable enough (for this day and age) claims to be called a champion and the super middleweight picture, where the best did face each other and we sorted out the rightful champion.

Do not forget. Do not pretend. Andre Ward is the reigning super middleweight champion of the world. The real champion is still the real champion. Nothing has changed. No one has shown the ability to take that away from Andre Ward. He has not lost his title. He has not lost THE title. Froch has not won THE title. Stieglitz has not won THE title. Bika has not won THE title. Andre Ward is THE champion. Accept it or try to take it from him in the ring. Everything else is just make believe stuff. Congratulations, Mr. Ward. You are still the champion.


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